Comments on: The Stravinsky Octet, James Levine, Sean Hannity https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/ The official website of the New York-based composer Nico Muhly. Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:45:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: Barbara T. from Wash Sq Vil, NYC https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10514 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:45:05 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10514 Your point to my response above is very well-taken. Yes, looking at it from that angle, I not only agree with you, but I appreciate your sentiments re the health articles written about the Maestro of whom I love. It is no one’s interest to have to see all the details of one’s health, diet, etc – of anyone’s and then to have to mention the whole history is not only ridiculous and non relevant, (I could imagine how much space they would need for every time I broke a finger, toe, wrist) people do not want to hear about all this. They want to only know that he is WELL and when we can SEE HIM AGAIN! Thank you so much, Mr. Hannity. I am sure the Maestro would appreciate your genuine concern and sentiments also. Have a great summer!

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By: Brian Mark https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10512 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 01:47:11 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10512 Homegirl is probably not yet 17 – a possible title for a future piece. Love it!

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By: Reymon Xane https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10426 Wed, 12 May 2010 02:20:36 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10426 Nico, I’m not sure why I’m leaving a comment. If I had to pick a reason out of my near-vacant answer hat, I would say that I feel related to you, somehow, through this fabric of gay-space-time that somehow connects all homosexuals throughout the world. That said, thank you for being—as they say—”out.” Though I have met you not, I feel a bit less lonesome whenever I find people like you (people who are willing to be who they are and make a career out of something that some may call “fiscally unsound”).

Well, thanks for reading this high-schooler’s festering regurgitation—commonly called somewhat expressive writing in common-day language.

-Reymon

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By: Barbara T. from Wash Sq Vil, NYC https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10422 Mon, 10 May 2010 15:02:20 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10422 If you don’t want to read about Maestro James Levine as millions of others ARE following the news hoping he is back to the Podiums, just please flip the channel or pages….in the same way you suggest to just send him a card. We do enjoy (as he does) other conductors while wishing Maestro Levine speedy recovery so we can have him back. We will remember to send you a card and show no other concern should you have a leave-of-absence. What I do agree with you about is when the authors go back from the beginning of eternity about his health or any other person’s health rather than focused on only the current health. Jimmy is not all about that – he is about his MUSIC and PASSION and in otherwise BEAUTIFUL health. People have commented on his salary – which to me $3mm- in entertainment industry for a STAR of his world-wide magnitude and shared between the BSO and MET is surprisingly *LOW* to me and he is not paid by the BSO unless conducting. I wish the MAESTRO a speedy recovery and yes, the show goes on, but he is carried within our hearts each time and always cherished and remembered throughout.

Nico responds: you’ve misread me. I wasn’t saying send him a card like, being flip. I was just pointing out that some of the news coverage seems a little morbid, and that having daily public updates on one’s health must be rather stressful. In all other points we are in agreement. I’m into conductors being paid a lot, too.

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By: Guido https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10419 Sun, 09 May 2010 18:13:27 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10419 Read the interview/article thing – quite enjoyed it… Jonsi seems quite closed minded about music, especially about classical music being boring – I wonder if he’s even listened to much of it – Right óf Spring [RóS(!)], Barber’s Piano concerto, Britten’s Phaedra. Not fucking boring.

Also, what about all that shit with being gay making you a better classical musician? I’ll assume that was the drink/drugs talking. I get so pissed off (no, not pissed off, I’m just bored by it) when gays think that their sexuality is so important to everyone else – like my dad – his gayness seems to affect everything in his life, the art he makes, everything. WTF? No one who actually cares about art gives a shit what appendage you choose to stick in which particular crevice!* All I ask is for is the transcendental, a radiant, refulgent, ravishing experience that makes me feel ecstatic to be alive.

Is that too much to ask?

*Unless of course they want to bone you.

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By: Guido https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10418 Sun, 09 May 2010 18:12:55 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10418 Read the interview/article thing – quite enjoyed it… Jonsi seems quite closed minded about music, especially about classical music being boring – I wonder if he’s even listened to much of it – Right óf Spring [RóS(!)], Barber’s Piano concerto, Britten’s Phaedra. Not fucking boring.

Also, what about all that shit with being gay making you a better classical musician? I’ll assume that was the drink/drugs talking. I get so pissed off (no, not pissed off, I’m just bored by it) when gays think that their sexuality is so important to everyone else – like my dad – his gayness seems to affect everything in his life, the art he makes, everything. WTF? No one who actually cares about art gives a shit what appendage you choose to stick in which particular crevice!* All I ask is for is the transcendental, a radiant, refulgent, ravishing experience that makes me feel ecstatic to be alive.

Is that too much to ask?

*Unless of course they want to bone you.

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By: simply music https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10410 Thu, 06 May 2010 18:13:06 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10410 To heck with all the politics. It would be great to read what you wrote about composing choral music, and by the way, what software you use for composing.

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By: gmac https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10367 Sun, 02 May 2010 02:31:30 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10367 I believe the true problem with most peoples social/political stances nowadays is that they are entirely too polarized and extremely unstable. Unstable to the point where even the slightest opposing view expressed towards ones own causes them to explode (sometimes to the point of becoming enraged) and immediately repute/condemn those views expressed by the opposing person. Such views are extremely bigoted and blame goes both ways. Also, it is only too often that those who claim to be victims of prejudice are woefully ignorant/blind of the prejudice they too possess.

The heart of problem lies in our complete ignorance of a common ground. To quote Bart Simpson, “Why are you focusing on the tiny dumb differences when you should be focusing on the big dumb similarities!” We’ve become lazy. Instead of focusing on those traits we have in common we tend to search for stupid social/political cues so that we can quickly diagnose if a person is good, bad, smart, stupid, etc. The idea of “with me” or “against me” social/political behavior which seems to pervade everything nowadays has to go. We need to rid ourselves of snap judgments which are often based on a perceived prejudice. What is truly disturbing is that this polarization speaks volumes about how far we as a people have gotten away from what essentially makes us human: the heart of most people in this world is inherently good. Most people in the world just want happiness and want others to be happy as well. If we’d only get to know each other we’d be surprised to find that no matter our sex, race or sexual, political, religious, etc., preference we’d learn we all actually have a lot in common.

All this being said I’m quite surprised and saddened by the sheer immaturity of you Nico in your “200 word response” to this 17-year-old kid. Ask any person their beliefs in high school, during college, after college, and you’ll get three very different answers. You taking the time to lecture this kid on his views is tantamount to you being criticized for your beliefs. Also, the thought that your ignorance blinded you to the fact that this kid looks up to you as a musician and that this never crossed your mind is amazing. It’s obvious he looks up to you as a person and as a musician otherwise he would have never sought your council in the the first place. Also “citing [your] obvious homosexuality…” as a reason for him to search for a new role model “…who graduated from [your] high school who were equipped to analyze his harmonies, show him how slurs work, and correct his declensions” is ridiculous because your merit alone is why he sought your input. It’s not hard to see why because you are an extremely talented and gifted composer Nico; I share a tremendous amount of respect for you. That being said I still believe you could have handled the situation with a little more tact. Oh and as for the snide comments such as “[killing] people from a helicopter without the risk of being kicked out for Cocksucking…” Let’s leave those lines of reasoning to the 17-year -olds.

Nico responds: Thank you for writing. But a few pointz of order. First of all, not two-hundred words. Two THOUSAND words of really good stuff about choral music, I think, and then a little Post Script, in little font, saying that I was uneasy with his FB, because, simply put, I was? And I feel like it’s okay to be able to say that, even to a 17 year-old, because I got his message and was like, oh, cool, what is this kid about? And then to find that it’s conservative politics — what would you have me do? And I think the military example is more than fair. My understanding of citizenship is that you can vote and you can serve your country; I don’t think it’s fair for this boy to have such a delighted engagement with politics that turn me into somebody who can’t or shouldn’t serve because of a ‘choice’ I made about my ‘lifestyle.’ And the point that I was trying to make was that while being gay wasn’t a choice, the choices I did make, namely, to know about stuff, and music, and Latin, and other Things, can’t be divorced from who I am. So, that’s why I (a) wrote what I did to him and (b) blogged about it, because I was neasy with the balance of being looked up w/ being who I am. So there you go. Again, thanks for writing. This has been a very, very interesting post.

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By: TJ Parker https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10342 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:36:09 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10342 Aw, come on. Knee-jerk outrage is Hannity’s speciality. Not worthy of imitation. It would be a shame for you to live down to every gay stereotype that the poor Middle-American boy has been raised on. The transition from rule-breaker to role model is a tough one, eh?

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By: Spike https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10341 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:48:45 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10341 Dear Nico –

It is not a new thing for me to sit at my desk, lovingly transcribing a rock record so I can play along with it.

It is a very new thing indeed for the instrument on my lap at the time to be a piccolo.

I have never done this before; I have never had to do this before; I have never been ABLE to do this before.

It is GLORIOUS.

Having read that interview, my heart needed to be poured out, just a li’l bit, knowing it was your brain that dreamed up the countermelodies I’ve been whistling. Sir, I LIKE your brain. Please keep doing delightfully, subtly, unexpectedly wacky things forever. Also (on much the same topic!) your blog is a ray of sunshine, so thank you for all of the above.

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By: Nico https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10340 Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:43:22 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10340 In reply to Thanks a bundle!.

Incorrect. I didn’t chew anybody out. And the only reason I even blogged about it is because it’s not something that comes up that often (right wing composers, especially young ones). Sorry if I misrepresented it, and even more sorry you are so angry! It’s all gonna be fine.

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By: Thanks a bundle! https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10336 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:05:06 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10336 So, you took a young guy who asked you for help with his music, helped him–and then chewed him out for not agreeing with your politics?

And what gives you the right to go digging into someone’s information, uninvited, then criticize him for it? It’s not as if he approached you AS a right-winger. High school children are CHILDREN, remember. Did you never even consider that?

No doubt you gave him a few good lessons, here. One of them is on being a self-important ass.

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By: Greg https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10329 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:26:03 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10329 I usually never go to people’s websites, but I ended up here because your wikipedia was unsatisfying. I’m so glad I did. However, the last 3 hours I spent reading your blog made the likelihood that I would appear in class tomorrow morning dwindle exponentially. And to use a french loan word I just learned (and have been dying to break out) “Jouissance.” Right?! Because I liked your blog but it also sort of fucked me? Maybe I’m not using it right.

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By: ingemarsson https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10321 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:42:16 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10321 you’re right brndn, we do make judgments, we’re allowed to, and i suppose i made my own (above). and indeed, any argument based on skin color and political stance being synonymous would be totally absurd and easily invalidated. that’s not exactly what i was getting at, but perhaps that’s how it reads (and it does now that i look at it again). when i got to the part about skin color, i was using a hypothetical character to illustrate the point, and that fictional person was meant to be absurd in the first place, certainly not among “reasonable persons.” but, in the final analysis, the argument is admittedly flawed.

i have no affections or empathy for the hard right. reasonable persons would likely object to the extremes in either direction, without necessarily being “moderates.” i guess what i was trying to express was my insecurity with political matters getting so in the way of what could be perfectly amicable interpersonal relations. most of the time it’s unavoidable, as nick said: “Even with friends, there will always be that understanding that they consider your lifestyle immoral and wrong.” of course, that would make it a rather difficult friendship to maintain. your friend’s views are an affront to you, your identity, your way of being in the world, and meanwhile, your “friend” considers your lifestyle to be an affront to everything he/she holds dear and thinks moral. In that regard, it goes both ways, and as such the battle rages on. wars of all shapes and sizes feed off of a kind of objectification and dehumanization of those on the other side, be they commies, cong, repubs, tree-huggers, social-dems, what have you. i think that distance fuels the misconception and fear that in turn feed the fires of perpetual conflict. perhaps it’s in those rare moments when people cross through the flames and finally meet in a place with little pretense, that understandings are finally forged. it just sucks when that possibility is precluded, yet again, by more of the same.

but maybe i’m just a naive pseudo-hippie writing a near-tearjerker final paper for his gen. ed. creative writing class, or at least that’s what it’s starting to sound like. in any case, if that’s what i was trying to say, there were a million better ways to go about it (saying nothing at all being the best of those). i don’t really know what had gotten into me when i wrote that, but it looks exactly like the sort of stuff that i’m questioning here.

and so, i sincerely apologize to nico for smearing your blog with stuff that might have made sense had it not been so mean-spirited. also, props to brndn and nick for piping up and pointing it out.

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By: brndn https://nicomuhly.com/news/2010/the-stravinsky-octet-james-levine-sean-hannity/comment-page-1/#comment-10307 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:53:16 +0000 http://nicomuhly.com/?p=1946#comment-10307 Has anyone noticed that Ingmar (above) has claimed to find skin color and one’s political stance “analogous?” I would politely suggest that this invalidates everything else he writes.

We make judgments. We’re allowed to. Reasonable persons agree on the topics of Sean Hannity and the hard right. Nico is perfectly justified in feeling uncomfortable about the situation described, and is more than entitled to say something about it.

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