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		<title>By: cleo</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/this-is-what-we-like-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-8933</link>
		<dc:creator>cleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Pandora.com description of Belle &amp; Sebastian... some interesting points in terms of the definition of precious... just couldn&#039;t resist commenting

A band that takes its name from a French children&#039;s television series about a boy and his dog would almost have to be precious, and to be certain, Belle &amp; Sebastian are precious. But precious can be a damning word, and Belle &amp; Sebastian don&#039;t have the negative qualities that the word connotes -- they are private but not insular, pretty but not wimpy; they make gorgeous, delicate melodies sound full-bodied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Pandora.com description of Belle &amp; Sebastian&#8230; some interesting points in terms of the definition of precious&#8230; just couldn&#8217;t resist commenting</p>
<p>A band that takes its name from a French children&#8217;s television series about a boy and his dog would almost have to be precious, and to be certain, Belle &amp; Sebastian are precious. But precious can be a damning word, and Belle &amp; Sebastian don&#8217;t have the negative qualities that the word connotes &#8212; they are private but not insular, pretty but not wimpy; they make gorgeous, delicate melodies sound full-bodied.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/this-is-what-we-like-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-8904</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nico, Love the music references...but you got one wrong.

The Boulez you posted is totally the second movement, not the last...very  understandable mistake.

:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nico, Love the music references&#8230;but you got one wrong.</p>
<p>The Boulez you posted is totally the second movement, not the last&#8230;very  understandable mistake.</p>
<p> <img src='http://nicomuhly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: m. downing</title>
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		<dc:creator>m. downing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i noticed you in the crowd saturday night (@gb) and have to say the shirt you wore is one of the best things i&#039;ve ever seen.  that is all, aside from thank you for all of your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i noticed you in the crowd saturday night (@gb) and have to say the shirt you wore is one of the best things i&#8217;ve ever seen.  that is all, aside from thank you for all of your work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let me interview you for my blog!  We can do it via email, just a few questions.  

--Jordan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let me interview you for my blog!  We can do it via email, just a few questions.  </p>
<p>&#8211;Jordan</p>
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		<title>By: Harlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You remind me of Syd Barrett.  Please don&#039;t
go insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You remind me of Syd Barrett.  Please don&#8217;t<br />
go insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I haven&#039;t listened to The Cave since high school. Butterflies all over again. We spent a week or so listening to this and Satyagraha. Fabulous.

btw, thanks for the intro to CocoRosie. I&#039;m checking out their 1st album. 

Wish GB was coming to New Orleans!
-J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I haven&#8217;t listened to The Cave since high school. Butterflies all over again. We spent a week or so listening to this and Satyagraha. Fabulous.</p>
<p>btw, thanks for the intro to CocoRosie. I&#8217;m checking out their 1st album. </p>
<p>Wish GB was coming to New Orleans!<br />
-J</p>
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		<title>By: maura</title>
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		<dc:creator>maura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in love with that Reich. IN. LOVE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in love with that Reich. IN. LOVE.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a freelance writer who has churned out my fair share of reviews, I feel comfortable saying that the review in question is a bad review and the author should feel bad for writing it.  It&#039;s just like all those film reviews in the Voice that go on for like seven introductory paragraphs about some obscure filmmaking process before even mentioning the new release in question -- the author has some Important(TM) perspective to share, and the review is just a handy soapbox to stand on.  Whenever you wind up feeling like you know far more about the reviewer than you do about his or her assigned subject, you can basically dismiss most of what they said.  

Editors are as much to blame for this as the writers, if not more.  I&#039;ve had editors go back into articles I&#039;ve written and add words and thoughts that I&#039;d never normally use, resulting in some truly awful misquotes and gross over-simplifications that I wish I could withdraw my name from. 

I&#039;ve really enjoyed the back and forth here about the words &quot;precious&quot; and &quot;twee&quot;.  Regardless of how precise or imprecise they may be, they&#039;re now just buzzwords and shouldn&#039;t be used in any serious review without elaborate justification.  The irony of this reviewer using the word &quot;precious&quot; to describe Grizzly Bear&#039;s music is too delicious, considering his use of phrases like &quot;rhythm is a frozen concern.&quot;

I&#039;m intrigued by your ability to offer a thoughtful critique on this whole matter instead of a defensive rebuttal, Nico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a freelance writer who has churned out my fair share of reviews, I feel comfortable saying that the review in question is a bad review and the author should feel bad for writing it.  It&#8217;s just like all those film reviews in the Voice that go on for like seven introductory paragraphs about some obscure filmmaking process before even mentioning the new release in question &#8212; the author has some Important(TM) perspective to share, and the review is just a handy soapbox to stand on.  Whenever you wind up feeling like you know far more about the reviewer than you do about his or her assigned subject, you can basically dismiss most of what they said.  </p>
<p>Editors are as much to blame for this as the writers, if not more.  I&#8217;ve had editors go back into articles I&#8217;ve written and add words and thoughts that I&#8217;d never normally use, resulting in some truly awful misquotes and gross over-simplifications that I wish I could withdraw my name from. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve really enjoyed the back and forth here about the words &#8220;precious&#8221; and &#8220;twee&#8221;.  Regardless of how precise or imprecise they may be, they&#8217;re now just buzzwords and shouldn&#8217;t be used in any serious review without elaborate justification.  The irony of this reviewer using the word &#8220;precious&#8221; to describe Grizzly Bear&#8217;s music is too delicious, considering his use of phrases like &#8220;rhythm is a frozen concern.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m intrigued by your ability to offer a thoughtful critique on this whole matter instead of a defensive rebuttal, Nico.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nico,

I came across your site through Expression of Joy project. I noticed that you used the Arabic character و in this post. Do you speak Arabic? I&#039;m always happy to hear of people who have picked it up. How did you learn it?

God the Internet is so strange.

Regarding this post: thank you. I don&#039;t know many people willing to put up so many examples in the course of discussion, and I find your examples well organized. I don&#039;t have time to read much else on your site tonight, but I&#039;ll bookmark and return. Sorry that this post didn&#039;t do much more than celebrate unexpected Arabic references.

إلى اللقاء،
يعقوب بوتييت\ Jacob P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nico,</p>
<p>I came across your site through Expression of Joy project. I noticed that you used the Arabic character و in this post. Do you speak Arabic? I&#8217;m always happy to hear of people who have picked it up. How did you learn it?</p>
<p>God the Internet is so strange.</p>
<p>Regarding this post: thank you. I don&#8217;t know many people willing to put up so many examples in the course of discussion, and I find your examples well organized. I don&#8217;t have time to read much else on your site tonight, but I&#8217;ll bookmark and return. Sorry that this post didn&#8217;t do much more than celebrate unexpected Arabic references.</p>
<p>إلى اللقاء،<br />
يعقوب بوتييت\ Jacob P.</p>
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		<title>By: petit a</title>
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		<dc:creator>petit a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could I propose &quot;utilitarian&quot; as an opposite of precious? It seems less pejorative than many of the others that have been suggested, allowing for an oppositional structure that allows that while both the absurd bagel and the massive steak have their pleasures, neither make, you know, absolutely perfect uses of their ingredients.  &quot;Colloquial&quot; might also work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could I propose &#8220;utilitarian&#8221; as an opposite of precious? It seems less pejorative than many of the others that have been suggested, allowing for an oppositional structure that allows that while both the absurd bagel and the massive steak have their pleasures, neither make, you know, absolutely perfect uses of their ingredients.  &#8220;Colloquial&#8221; might also work.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewPeteSimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewPeteSimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sir, are precious.</description>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nico, one of the hardest elements to crack about criticism is the point of it in the first place.  John Cage&#039;s opinion was to react &quot;actively&quot; rather than passively (that is to say, in the same mode as that which you are reacting to, i.e. making music as a critical reaction to other music vs. writing a scathing review).  What I appreciate about your reaction is that you critique language with an analysis of language, and then react musically in regards to the criticism of music.  Not quite the length to which Cage might have gone, but still, a great middle ground.

Also, caught an earful of a piece from Speaks Volumes, I think it was Pillaging Music (?), on that BMW commercial in movie theaters.  Good on ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nico, one of the hardest elements to crack about criticism is the point of it in the first place.  John Cage&#8217;s opinion was to react &#8220;actively&#8221; rather than passively (that is to say, in the same mode as that which you are reacting to, i.e. making music as a critical reaction to other music vs. writing a scathing review).  What I appreciate about your reaction is that you critique language with an analysis of language, and then react musically in regards to the criticism of music.  Not quite the length to which Cage might have gone, but still, a great middle ground.</p>
<p>Also, caught an earful of a piece from Speaks Volumes, I think it was Pillaging Music (?), on that BMW commercial in movie theaters.  Good on ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Carah A. Naseem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carah A. Naseem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, Nico. That leg looks pretty damn precious to me.
I guess I&#039;m using that in a more Gollum connotation...

Also, I enjoy your ability to effectively juxtapose Wagner and CocoRosie. It gives me warm fuzzies.

As to this sliding scale of precious  sloppy... I&#039;m not sure I subscribe to it. I think words like those are a bit too loaded, and almost thought-terminating, and altogether ineffective. So to set them as opposites of each other would just be false semantics. Take the denotation of precious, for example, just something near and dear to you. Your sloppy, adolescent, dirt-in-the-knees romance could be absolutely precious to you, as easily as a china doll in a glass case can be precious to anyone else.

God, I hate analysis. All it does is open up a can of worms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Nico. That leg looks pretty damn precious to me.<br />
I guess I&#8217;m using that in a more Gollum connotation&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, I enjoy your ability to effectively juxtapose Wagner and CocoRosie. It gives me warm fuzzies.</p>
<p>As to this sliding scale of precious  sloppy&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure I subscribe to it. I think words like those are a bit too loaded, and almost thought-terminating, and altogether ineffective. So to set them as opposites of each other would just be false semantics. Take the denotation of precious, for example, just something near and dear to you. Your sloppy, adolescent, dirt-in-the-knees romance could be absolutely precious to you, as easily as a china doll in a glass case can be precious to anyone else.</p>
<p>God, I hate analysis. All it does is open up a can of worms.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem with words like pretentious and precious is that I think people use them to try and objectively dismiss or invalidate something they just don&#039;t like. It&#039;s posing a subjective opinion as a categorical truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with words like pretentious and precious is that I think people use them to try and objectively dismiss or invalidate something they just don&#8217;t like. It&#8217;s posing a subjective opinion as a categorical truth.</p>
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		<title>By: AlligatorATTACK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlligatorATTACK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That recording of Floe is definitely in the wrong key! It almost sounds lethargic because of it, but it could just be the performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That recording of Floe is definitely in the wrong key! It almost sounds lethargic because of it, but it could just be the performance.</p>
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