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	<title>Comments on: Making Arrangements</title>
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	<description>The official website of the New York-based composer Nico Muhly.</description>
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		<title>By: Alexi</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-9080</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stumbled upon this page through an image search of Paul Bettany and found this entry to be very enlightening! 
I enjoyed your metaphoric descriptions paired with the images (and audio examples). I especially liked the visual comparisons because I am a visual artist and I inherently translate things and understand everything visually, so it was very helpful! 

My favorite part, though, was your criticism of criticism. I completely agree with you, and I didn&#039;t know why I hated many reviews until I read this. So thanks! 

Keep up the good work. I&#039;d never heard of you before and now I&#039;m keeping a look out for your work! So hurray for you, have a cookie, and keep writing.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled upon this page through an image search of Paul Bettany and found this entry to be very enlightening!<br />
I enjoyed your metaphoric descriptions paired with the images (and audio examples). I especially liked the visual comparisons because I am a visual artist and I inherently translate things and understand everything visually, so it was very helpful! </p>
<p>My favorite part, though, was your criticism of criticism. I completely agree with you, and I didn&#8217;t know why I hated many reviews until I read this. So thanks! </p>
<p>Keep up the good work. I&#8217;d never heard of you before and now I&#8217;m keeping a look out for your work! So hurray for you, have a cookie, and keep writing.  <img src='http://nicomuhly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Tutcher</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7928</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Tutcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Mr. Muhly, I only heard your name for the first time, today (associated with the song for The National) and was pleased to find this site. I&#039;ll be checking out your work. I enjoyed your comment about influence. That it&#039;s a bad thing to show an influence is absurd. Would they complain to Mozart that the Mass in C had parts derived from Bach? Dear Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Mr. Muhly, I only heard your name for the first time, today (associated with the song for The National) and was pleased to find this site. I&#8217;ll be checking out your work. I enjoyed your comment about influence. That it&#8217;s a bad thing to show an influence is absurd. Would they complain to Mozart that the Mass in C had parts derived from Bach? Dear Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: phillip larrimore</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7890</link>
		<dc:creator>phillip larrimore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a very good point; I recently reviewed
a concert that Ursula Oppens did in
North Carolina and I found myself
trying to straitjacket a very interesting
work with comparisons--why? The
urge to make familiar the unfamiliar,
to control perception rather perceive;
unfortunately, almost everything must
go through a filter of a defense mechanism, given the informational
overload in daily life, and the preponderance of work which turns out
in  good conscience to be  merely epigonic.Which brings up the
 the vexing question:when does a work
betray its sources? Is a parody mass
&quot;derivative&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a very good point; I recently reviewed<br />
a concert that Ursula Oppens did in<br />
North Carolina and I found myself<br />
trying to straitjacket a very interesting<br />
work with comparisons&#8211;why? The<br />
urge to make familiar the unfamiliar,<br />
to control perception rather perceive;<br />
unfortunately, almost everything must<br />
go through a filter of a defense mechanism, given the informational<br />
overload in daily life, and the preponderance of work which turns out<br />
in  good conscience to be  merely epigonic.Which brings up the<br />
 the vexing question:when does a work<br />
betray its sources? Is a parody mass<br />
&#8220;derivative&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7861</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very much struck by how different your music is from that of Reich and Glass, and indeed I don&#039;t really think of you as a minimalist composer; but that&#039;s not to say you don&#039;t have their techniques in your toolbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very much struck by how different your music is from that of Reich and Glass, and indeed I don&#8217;t really think of you as a minimalist composer; but that&#8217;s not to say you don&#8217;t have their techniques in your toolbox.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7845</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought from the title and the first sentences that someone had died and you were &#039;making arrangements&#039; for their remains. And therefore you had to decide how to dress them.

Haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought from the title and the first sentences that someone had died and you were &#8216;making arrangements&#8217; for their remains. And therefore you had to decide how to dress them.</p>
<p>Haha.</p>
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		<title>By: schimmel</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7843</link>
		<dc:creator>schimmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally i love smelling influence.
and i think it is useful info.
but you&#039;re right on about how stupid it is to believe that music should be fragrance-free.
no cult-of-originality for me, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally i love smelling influence.<br />
and i think it is useful info.<br />
but you&#8217;re right on about how stupid it is to believe that music should be fragrance-free.<br />
no cult-of-originality for me, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: ben frost</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and so the cycle continues. 


Xaxaxaxa. An officemate just asked me, &quot;Hey, Nick, what&#039;s up with your Project Runway post? Is that intentional? Is that a spoof?&quot;

There is something rather Adrian Ryan- and Nico Muhly-esque about this post, but it&#039;s all me, completely intentional, and 100% How I Do on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and so the cycle continues. </p>
<p>Xaxaxaxa. An officemate just asked me, &#8220;Hey, Nick, what&#8217;s up with your Project Runway post? Is that intentional? Is that a spoof?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is something rather Adrian Ryan- and Nico Muhly-esque about this post, but it&#8217;s all me, completely intentional, and 100% How I Do on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: AHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it move you? (Whoever the you is.) In music, that&#039;s the only thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it move you? (Whoever the you is.) In music, that&#8217;s the only thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7837</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most excellent review of the review. May I quote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent review of the review. May I quote?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7836</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/tnlpix/PaulBettany.jpg</description>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7834</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post.</p>
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		<title>By: Galen H. Brown</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7833</link>
		<dc:creator>Galen H. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the issue here is the purpose of a review and the job of the critic.  If the critic&#039;s job is to provide a sort of thumbs-up-or-thumbs-down assessment from a presumed expert position, then certainly a review which merely names influences doesn&#039;t do the trick.  But if it&#039;s acceptable for a review to be primarily descriptive, then drawing comparisons to other better-known work seems fair.  And I&#039;m inclined to think that straight description is a reasonable approach some of the time, especially in cases where the reviewer wants to avoid letting personal biases interfere, or cases where the main value of the review to the audience will be to give them a sense of whether they themselves might be interested.

That said, I still agree that the review of your piece was problematic, just not for the same reason.  One of the problems is that minimalists tend to be &quot;accused&quot; of being derivative a lot more often than our modernist pals.  The implicit message of &quot;derived from Schoenberg&quot; is &quot;this dude knows his Schoenberg and is Very Serious.&quot;  The implicit message of &quot;derived from Glass&quot; is &quot;he stole from a guy who writes the same thing over and over, how dull.&quot;  It&#039;s a ridiculous double standard.  And &quot;derived from&quot; rather than &quot;inspired by&quot; or &quot;reminiscent of&quot; is also clearly barbed.  The implication of the whole review is crystalized by the parting shot about resyncing the iPod--an iPod holds music by other people, and the reviewer is suggesting that you ripped off Reich and Glass but it didn&#039;t get you far enough so you should have ripped off somebody else too.  If your inspiration were Carter and Babbitt would the same insinuations have been made?  I doubt it.

Congratulations on the performance.  I&#039;d love to hear the piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the issue here is the purpose of a review and the job of the critic.  If the critic&#8217;s job is to provide a sort of thumbs-up-or-thumbs-down assessment from a presumed expert position, then certainly a review which merely names influences doesn&#8217;t do the trick.  But if it&#8217;s acceptable for a review to be primarily descriptive, then drawing comparisons to other better-known work seems fair.  And I&#8217;m inclined to think that straight description is a reasonable approach some of the time, especially in cases where the reviewer wants to avoid letting personal biases interfere, or cases where the main value of the review to the audience will be to give them a sense of whether they themselves might be interested.</p>
<p>That said, I still agree that the review of your piece was problematic, just not for the same reason.  One of the problems is that minimalists tend to be &#8220;accused&#8221; of being derivative a lot more often than our modernist pals.  The implicit message of &#8220;derived from Schoenberg&#8221; is &#8220;this dude knows his Schoenberg and is Very Serious.&#8221;  The implicit message of &#8220;derived from Glass&#8221; is &#8220;he stole from a guy who writes the same thing over and over, how dull.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a ridiculous double standard.  And &#8220;derived from&#8221; rather than &#8220;inspired by&#8221; or &#8220;reminiscent of&#8221; is also clearly barbed.  The implication of the whole review is crystalized by the parting shot about resyncing the iPod&#8211;an iPod holds music by other people, and the reviewer is suggesting that you ripped off Reich and Glass but it didn&#8217;t get you far enough so you should have ripped off somebody else too.  If your inspiration were Carter and Babbitt would the same insinuations have been made?  I doubt it.</p>
<p>Congratulations on the performance.  I&#8217;d love to hear the piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7832</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole â€œthis band sounds like this band plus this band with a touch of this bandâ€ thing seems like a new, even worse take on the &#039;criticism&#039; of a few years ago that used descriptions like &quot;electro-funk-jazz-rock-country-metal-blues.&quot;  Pitchfork seems to be the worst for this kind of crap.

On an entirely related note, I just finished marking a stack of first year Music History papers and it seems like people are finding more and more elaborate ways of saying nothing about music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole â€œthis band sounds like this band plus this band with a touch of this bandâ€ thing seems like a new, even worse take on the &#8216;criticism&#8217; of a few years ago that used descriptions like &#8220;electro-funk-jazz-rock-country-metal-blues.&#8221;  Pitchfork seems to be the worst for this kind of crap.</p>
<p>On an entirely related note, I just finished marking a stack of first year Music History papers and it seems like people are finding more and more elaborate ways of saying nothing about music.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7831</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reviewer provided very little opinion at all, which has very little entertainment value, reading-wise. I like the &quot;But...&quot; before the zing he gives your piece, even though it doesn&#039;t follow something that&#039;s able to be disagreed with.

And the violin line! I&#039;d probably pull a Robert Schumann trying to stretch my hand for that Ab group in the third bar, but I&#039;d do it gladly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reviewer provided very little opinion at all, which has very little entertainment value, reading-wise. I like the &#8220;But&#8230;&#8221; before the zing he gives your piece, even though it doesn&#8217;t follow something that&#8217;s able to be disagreed with.</p>
<p>And the violin line! I&#8217;d probably pull a Robert Schumann trying to stretch my hand for that Ab group in the third bar, but I&#8217;d do it gladly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://nicomuhly.com/news/2009/making-arrangements/comment-page-1/#comment-7830</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear!</p>
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